Wednesday, October 4, 2006

Darfur gets worse

WHEN will someone step in and stop this genocide? The situation is wholly untenable. Maybe the exit strategy for Iraq should be to go to Sudan?


Ibrahamav said...

I left acomment and it disappeared.

Jason said...

Despite all the rhetoric that came from the right about freeing the iraqi people and how awful Hussein was for his treatment of his citizens, there seems to be little in the way of calls from right to do anything about this.

Ibrahamav said...

Sudan is a lose-lose proposition. There is nothing to be done but post a 200,000 man force to separate the sides.

The perfect escape for Bush was katrina. No one would have been upset had Bush redeployed in New Orleans.

God doesn't give second chances often.

By the way, how do you post photos on a blog?

Ibrahamav said...

Here is a blurb posted by noted antisemite Jeffrey Blankfort, jablankfort at
On another antisemitic newsletter I get (Peter Myers of Australia is the white supremist behind the newsletter)

Save Darfur: Zionist Conspiracy? Exploiting African Genocide for

From Jeffrey Blankfort Date 03/10/2006

October 02, 2006 04:43PM EDT

Save Darfur: Zionist Conspiracy?

Exploiting African Genocide for Propaganda

Por El Ned Goldstein, WW4 REPORT

The Sudanese government has, unsurprisingly, stressed the participation
of Zionist and Jewish groups in the Save Darfur movement—and flatly
accused Israel of being behind the insurgency in Darfur.

Ibrahamav said...

And the story:

Exploiting African Genocide for Propaganda

by Ned Goldstein, WW4 REPORT

The death toll in the Darfur region of western Sudan has reached
200,000 and 400,000 as of Oct. 1, with 2.5 million displaced. The UN
warns that the death toll could escalate precipitously if the situation
is allowed to deteriorate. The dictatorial — and genocidal —Khartoum
regime led by Omar al-Bashir, is possibly the world's most brutal and

The conflict in Darfur is rooted in the long oppression of marginalized
groups seeking political and economic equality. Ethnic identification
has become increasingly polarized in Darfur, with the indigenous
Darfurians who support the rebels generally characterized as Black
Africans, and the Sudanese army and its proxy militias described as

While the debate over what to do about Darfur continues, the Sudanese
government and critics of the US-based Save Darfur coalition have
continued to accuse the movement (or, at least, elements of it) of
having ulterior motives: namely, to benefit Israel—both by diverting
attention from Israeli war crimes to those of the Khartoum regime and
its supporters in the Arab world, and, more ambitiously to actually
destabilize Sudan's Islamist government.

Khartoum and Israel: Mutual Exploitation?

The Sudanese government has, unsurprisingly, stressed the participation
of Zionist and Jewish groups in the Save Darfur movement—and flatly
accused Israel of being behind the insurgency in Darfur.

As early as Dec. 21, 2004, Republic of Sudan Radio reported that
Sudanese Interior Minister Ahmad Harun, flanked by two other government
ministers, "accused the Zionist entity of supplying the rebels with
weapons in the framework of Israel's plan that targets Arab nations."

In May 2005, the Sudanese State Minister for Foreign Affairs, Samir
al-Shaybani told a Syrian interviewer: "We can even say that these
powers want to dismember Sudan and replace this government with another
one that serves their strategic interests, represented in obliterating
Sudan's Arab identity. Top among these powers is the Zionist lobby,
which considered the Darfur issue primarily a Jewish issue requiring
solidarity between the Jews and some African tribes, which claim to be
in conflict with Arab tribes. The Darfur issue has thus been depicted
within the framework of mass annihilation. The Zionist groups and US
Administration played on this theory and dedicated huge resources and
large media and diplomatic campaigns to promote this erroneous
of the conflict."

Thomas Forsyth said...

The current Government in Sudan housed bin Laden. That is a better late than never reason, but one reason. Fighting the last traces of slavery in the world has noble reasons in its own right and coudl resonate to a new Africa policy for the US, plus stabilizing sub-Saharan Africa and promoting self-sufficiency there can lead to nations like Botswana being the norm in Africa than the exception.

The historian side of me also sees an appeal to being stationed first in Mesopatamia and now in the Kush.

Ibrahamav said...

I think it will be a new Somalia. This will be twice as bad as iraq because there are twice as many cultures and 4 times the subtrifuge.

felix said...

The Janjaweed is the local chapter of Islamofascists International. While sending more "Peacekeepers" is a nice idea, it is better to arm and train the local moderate muslims and animists so they can fight and, hopefully, kill the Janjaweed. Perhaps NATO can supply air power toward that effort. The article cited and other news on Darfur along with much of the (correct) liberal concern on the issue suffers from the familiar inability to "name the enemy". It's those "Arab Militias".

Name the enemy, win the war.

Jason H. Bowden said...

The lesson:

If America is not fighting for human rights and liberal democracy, then more often than not nobody is.

It is too bad America can't be a force for good in the world everywhere at once. The left uses this factual statement to illogically argue we should be nowhere.

Ibrahamav said...

You can name them, but it doesn't help. This is an extremely alien culture and landscape.

Throw your hands up and let them kill each other. It the enemy lives, then wipe them out.

BaconEating AtheistJew said...

The Muslim world doesn't give a rats ass. Either is Europe. They are focused on the f'ups that call themselves Palestinians.

In Darfur, no Jews are involved, so it is hard for the left to focus on who to hate.

Ibrahamav said...

But they are trying to tie the non-arabs in the conflict as dupes of the Jews.