UPDATE (Red Tulips): Evidently the 'storm troopers' are guarding against the protestors against the gay pride parade. I believe in the gay pride parade and disagree with Akiva on this one. Given that he is glossing over the FACT that at last year's gay pride parade, there was a stabbing committed by a Haredi Jew that injured three people, he loses credibility. Police presence is necessary, and his cause is not just. That said, it is possible that the police are going overboard here. However, his cause is hardly the sort of 'civil rights' cause of Gandhi that he makes it out to be. It is anti-civil rights.[snip]
When Ariel Sharon came to power and decided on a radical path directly counter to his election mandate, he remembered the civil obedience movement. He would not let a minor thing like public opinion or protest affect his plans. So he ordered the preparation of a new security unit. Yassam. Young men, non-religious, preferably non-Jewish, trained to deal with protest. Their methods? Not arrest, not crowd control, not tear gas or water cannon. No. They trained exclusively with riot gear and just-barely non-lethal violence techniques. Metal batons, armored fists, causing broken bones and head serious head wounds. Stun grenades and huge oversized riot control horses for charging crowds. Black armor, grey uniforms, black shielded helmets, black armored gloves, black jack boots. No id, no badge, crew cuts. No females, no yalmuka's, no handcuffs (no arrests). Beatings, rage, trampling, that's their training. Religious may not apply, Zionists are forbidden. They exist to break the will (and bones) of protestors. They are the Yassamnikim, the Israeli government's private storm troopers. They were deployed in Gaza, but only at the 'severe' protesting points. They were deployed in Chevron to clear the Jewish owned market, the shuk. And they were deployed in Amona in all their gory (sic), trampling, beating, breaking. They physically threw a friend's 15 year son out a second story window (they were sitting waiting to be annoying by being dragged away). He survived, no bones broken, but they broke his spirit, today he's thrown away his kippah and his observance. They exist to break bones and break spirit. Their name is well earned. Storm troopers. This week, they are deployed to the ultra-religious neighborhoods of Meah Shearim and Geulah in Jerusalem. Tonight reports are they are literally storming yeshiva's and beating the SITTING student population. Report here. Storm troopers.
Thursday, November 9, 2006
Storm Troopers
My general thoughts on the Dem victory
- The Republicans had lost their right to govern, given their myriad of scandals and inability to keep the bloated budget in check.
- I believe in checks and balances and a balance of power.
- I am hoping for some accountability and subpoenas to fly around - at least with regards to intelligence failures in Iraq.
- I am hoping for gridlock and a minimum amount of bills to be passed.
- The Dems need to show the nation what they stand for, and quit being just a gadfly - they need to have a stake in the future of this country, just as Republicans do. This will hopefully unify the nation.
- The budget should be tighter, as it was when Clinton was president and the Repubs were in Congress. The idea is that with checks and balances, the president will threaten to veto a pork-ridden budget, thus requiring a tighter, leaner budget. Furthermore, the Dems swept into office on the notion of fiscal responsibility. This is a positive change.
- Subpoenas flying around will bring some accountability back to the White House. Again, this is positive.
- Immigration reform will not happen. Any serious research into alternative fuel sources will not be undertaken. We will still be in Iraq. Gays will still be forbidden from the military, and there will not be any gay marriage. Abortion stays as is with the various restrictions in place. There will not be any serious social changes, just as there were no (serious) changes under Bush and the Repubs! This is neutral.
- The minimum wage will be raised. This is a positive change, despite Professor Kurgman's 'reservations.' ;-)
- We will continue to fund the UN, and the Dems will push for a more doveish UN ambassador. This is negative. The relations with Israel may be somewhat more sour. Again negative.
Rumsfeld gone; Iran-Contra in
Wednesday, November 8, 2006
Time for the GOP to listen up!!
Apostasy hadith revealed and disputed by Ali Eteraz
ID cards
Tuesday, November 7, 2006
Saddam sentenced to death; the elephant in the room is ignored
Voting day in the US
Jews as apes and swines
Say: “Shall I point out to you something much worse than this, (as judged) by the treatment it received from Allah? those who incurred the curse of Allah and His wrath, those of whom some He transformed into apes and swine, those who worshipped evil;- these are (many times) worse in rank, and far more astray from the even path!”2:65
And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: “Be ye apes, despised and rejected.”7:166
When in their insolence they transgressed (all) prohibitions, We said to them: “Be ye apes, despised and rejected.”Eteraz goes on to justify this with the following:
I started with verse 5:60 in his translation. Say: “Shall I tell you who, in the sight of God, deserves a yet worse retribution than these? They whom God has rejected and whom He has condemned, and whom He has turned into apes and swine because they worshipped the powers of evil:” these are yet worse in station, and farther astray from the right path [than the mockers]. The first thing I noted, that I had missed the first time around when looking at this verse, was the fact that there was no mention of Jews. “They whom God has rejected and whom He has condemned” were the ones turned into apes and swine “because they worshipped the powers of evil.” Of course, that did not mean this verse didn’t refer to Jews; oh no, it did refer to them. Except, it turned out, that this verse not only referred to Jews, but also to Christians. A subsequent pharse refers to “Men of God” and “Rabbis” - with the Men of God being a reference to Christians (especially in light of the fact that in verse 66 the Gospel is mentioned explicitly). My headache wasn’t gone, but I felt a little better. A book that did not discriminate in its epithets seemed a lot more palatable than a book that seemed to single out the most persecuted group in the history of mankind. Of course, it was not exactly a relief because now I was confronted with the fact that even more people were being referred to as descendants of apes and swine! The other two ape and swine verses were limited to Jews, but thankfully they offered a way of resolving the issue. Here is how Asad had rendered the two verses: 7:166To this I wrote the following: I think that to say that any group either ‘acts like apes’ or ‘becomes apes’ because they do not adhere to imaginery commandments given from en high is highly offensive. There is no excuse for Mohammed’s words. None. Zero. I see how you are making excuses, but I read the Koran and was gagging throughout at his moral pronouncements he made against others without even knowing Judaic or Christian law. How does he know what a good Jew is to do or a good Christian to do? And yet he says they are horrible for not being good Jews or good Christians. I would never proclaim a Muslim who does not keep Halal or who does not pray five times a day a bad Muslim. It is not for me to say. What gave Mohammed or anyone the right to make a pronouncement on the laws of another group, when he was a self professed illiterate who had only a base understanding of Judaism and Christianity? This is intolerance personified. It is not excusable. And it is rife throughout the Koran. You know this to be true. On page three of the Koran, he spoke of the Infidels. It is one of the most intolerant documents I have read. And where is the tolerance for other faiths? Through the ‘dhimmi’ laws? That is hardly tolerance. Maybe seventh century tolerance, but hardly 21st century tolerance. That does not mean that Islam cannot be reformed, but it will require excising or ignoring whole sections of the Koran. This is just a fact. This is a very difficult task for any reformer to make. Now, I know you are a tolerant person who clearly does not view Jews as apes or pigs. So how can you justify these words? ---------------- What do you think? Do Ali Eteraz's words make sense to you all, or are you not persuaded by his justification to the 'apes and pigs' quote in the Qu'ran?and then, when they disdainfully persisted in doing what they had been forbidden to do, We said unto them: “Be as apes despicable!”2:65for you are well aware of those from among you who profaned the Sabbath, whereupon We said unto them, “Be as apes despicable!”That “as” I knew quite well: “So am I as the rich, whose blessed key can bring him to his sweet locked up treasure” said Shakespeare. It was the “as” — the blessed “as” — of metaphor! I rejoiced a hundred times over. A metaphor means that the finality of language is absent. Being “as” something is not the same as being something. Could it be that the Quran was engaged in metaphor-making? If references to apes and swines were metaphors, it meant that the people being referred to had expressed the qualities of an “ape” and the qualities of a “pig.” Given the fact that in classical Arabic an ape was someone impulsive and a pig was someone stubborn, the metaphors seemed almost innocous (Especially since in all languages animals are used as referrants for certain qualities. Once we could learn what qualities classical Arabic invoked when referring to those animals, we could understand what the metaphor was referring to. Before I got too excited I wanted to be certain this “as” was not a mere blip on the radar. I had too many feelings hurt to risk hurting them again. So I went and consulted another translation, this one by Shakir. 7:166Therefore when they revoltingly persisted in what they had been forbidden, We said to them: Be (as) apes, despised and hated.2:65And certainly you have known those among you who exceeded the limits of the Sabbath, so We said to them: Be (as) apes, despised and hated.Granted that the other two famous English translations (Yusuf Ali and Pickthall), did not have the metaphorical “as” in them the presence of the “as” in two of the more famous translations was enough to get my mind churning, and this time I was not reliant upon any authority except that of my God given reason. Suddenly I started to see patterns in the Quran that further cast light on these questionable (and certainly questionably used) verses. First, I noticed that 2:65 was part of a flashback sequence beginning at 2:47 where the Quran was addressing the Jewish and Christian communities in the time of Muhammad and asking them to revisit their own theological histories and their relationship with God. In other words, the addressees were the Jews and Christians of that time (those alive in the life of Muhammad). This is an important distinction because the Quran treats the time during which Muhammad was alive, different than all other times. Things that were allowed, or done, during the life of Muhammad, were often not allowed, or done, after his passing. Consider: Muhammad was allowed to have nine wives, but all other Muslims can, at most, have up to four (and even there the Quran question whether one can act favorably). Muhammad was required to stay up and pray all night; all later Muslims are not so required. Muhammad was the one allowed to exact jizya from the dhimmis; after his passing the distinction was to be abolished (but sadly was not — more on this some other day). Thus, the fact that the Quran directly addressed only those Jews and Christians alive in Muhammad’s time, was significant. Then, far more astoundingly, I noticed that the sequence starting at 2:47 actually opened with the incredible assertion: “O children of Israel! Remember those blessings of Mine with which I graced you, and how I favoured you above all other people.” Pardon? This seemed to me like the clearest case of the Quran picking favorites, and the presence of verses that spoke favorably of Jews and Christians at the opening of the passage soothed me somewhat further. It more firmly established the conversational nature of the discussion in the Quran. I also recalled the hadith of the Prophet which stated that of all the Prophets, Moses was God’s favorite. At this point, I wondered whether there were other cases of “animalization” in the Quran. Whether one could truly conclude that the verses that bothered me were metaphors. While others may be aware of more, I found a couple of astounding ones. In Surah Fil, the Chapter of Elephant, in reference to an attack made upon Mecca before the birth of Muhammad, the Quran says, referring to those that fought the invading army from Yemen: 105:3let loose upon them great swarms of flying creaturesSome Muslim commentators, the same ones that thought that ape and pig were references to literal transformation, have interpreted this verse to mean that a swarm of flying creatures, literally, were let loose upon the invaders. However, when considered in light of classical Arabic, we realize that the idea of a “great swarm of flying creatures” was a metaphor popular among the poets in the day to refer to the state of utter decimation wrought by a group of brave warriors (the metaphor was likely popular because birds (kites and vultures) often hung out near battle-fields). Another metaphor about animals was popular among poets of pre-Islamic Arabia. Although not in the Quran, this was the notion of the hamstrung camel, which was a metaphor for exile and loneliness. While the hamstrung camel does not appear in the Quran, the pregnant, kneeling, camel does (in the thirtieth Juz), and refers to a feeling of alienation. In any case, in the Chapter of the Elephant, in a non-Jewish/Christian context, the Quran had animalized a group of people (namely, the Quraysh which included the Prophet’s grandfather). This gave me further proof that the reference to apes and swines was a metaphorical representation of the qualities that certain group of historical people exhibited which were like the qualities exhibited by certain animals familiar to the Arabs and was not a suggestion that Jews or Christians were the descendants of such animals, nor was it meant to read that they were animals to this day. Under classical Arabic, anyone could be an ape (if they were stubborn) just as anyone could be a hamstrung or pregnant camel (if they were lonely).
UPenn president apologizes for her actions
Monday, November 6, 2006
Gunpowder Treason and Plot

Sunday, November 5, 2006
Uncovered Meat, part II
Saturday, November 4, 2006
I love the Japanese :-)
The language of climate chaos has gotten out of hand
Mike Hulme is Professor of Environmental Sciences at the University of East Anglia, and Director of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research. Source BBC news
Friday, November 3, 2006
Israeli lives do not matter
Think about the following...if this guy was dressed with a white hood in the KKK costume, would she gleefully pose for pictures? Would she be smiling if he dressed as Hitler? Why is it considered appropriate to dress as a Palestinian suicide bomber, and go to a party hosted by the president of an Ivy League School dressed this way? Do you think it would be so cool to see someone with a rope, faux-lynching a black person, at such a party? Obviously not. But yet, this is cool...
You see this guy training a little boy to be a future suicide bomber. This is at the party hosted by the president of the University of Pennsylvania.
I came across something else today that was very disturbing - Jerome a Paris over at Daily Kos posting the image of the Holocaust cartoon contest winner, and then saying this is a legitimate debate we should be having! Lest we forget, the images make it seem as if Israelis are perpetuating a genocide upon the Palestinians, and that they use the Holocaust as a justification for these actions.
This is the winning cartoon:
In fact, the truth is the opposite. Israel has been giving up land from day one, and the Palestinian population has grown by a factor of eight. Anyone who claims 'genocide' is usually stupid or believes Israelis should be the subject of a genocide. We know where Iran stands on that side of the debate. While I do not believe in censorship, it is clear this is NOT a legitimate debate to be having.
This is what Markos Moulitas had to say about Jerome a Paris's post:
Jerome is there to stand for the freedom of the repressive Ayatollahs to spread their anti-semite propaganda! What would they have done without him?
Most ridiculous diary ever. Worst timed diary ever. Do the right thing and get this shit off the site. Or, at the very least, wait until next Wednesday to repost.
In other words "This makes Democrats look bad, post it later!"
That's great to know. I just do not understand why it is that there is such a careless disregard for the lives of Israelis. Are they not human? Are they not made from the same flesh and blood as the rest of us? Why is there such a disdain for fellow humanity who are simply doing what they can to survive in the face of a genocidal death cult?
Thursday, November 2, 2006
Cults of Personality
Neutron Iran?
...There is a third alternative and that is to drop neutron bombs not on Iranian nuclear sites but on Iranian and Syrian conventional forces — Iranian and Syrian armies and airfields. This would ruin the entire Iranian and Syrian militaries instantly and make an Israeli ground invasion all the way deep into Iran an overnight cakewalk...
Earth without people.....
(Belated) Outrage of the day!
As an American, I am absolutely outraged to fall to third place behind a bunch of Danes. Where is that Great Satan spirit I’ve come to expect from Egyptians? The next thing you know, you’ll hate Canada more than us. Maybe even France. OF COURSE, the US is going to invade Egypt. That’s all we talk about here. We’re going to steal the pyramids and move them to DisneyWorld. They’re already building the King Tut waterslide that will wrap around the Great Pyramid of Giza outside Orlando. We’re taking the Nile, too. Our Mojave Desert needs irrigation bad. Doesn’t anyone remember that we invaded Iraq to harvest organs from Iraqis to transplant into Americans? In fact, we’re building zombie Muslims out of all the collected organs left over and have infiltrated them back into Egypt. They walk the streets with you. Maybe that’s one behind you now. Don’t you realize we bombed ourselves on Sep 11 to make the Muslim world look bad and justify invading it all? Osama and Zawahiri are CIA agents, of course. Their real names are Bob Miller and Joe Spuggs, Hollywood actors who are now hiding out in a safe house in Las Vegas. Joe was in a bunch of B movie slasher flicks. We thought he’d make a good Bin Laden because when he was stoned he would get this creepy fanatic smile. We rewrote the Bible in Arabic, put “Koran” on the cover, and are distributing them all over the world, telling Muslims it is the true Koran. Man, are we laughing about that, especially after some Muslims from Cairo turned up at the Vatican asking where the Kaaba was. The Swiss Guard told them it had sprung a leak and was closed for repairs, come back later. And that two billion bucks we send to Egypt? It’s all coated with AIDS, every single bill. Come on, Egyptians, get your hate on. It’s your religious duty to hate America. WE’RE NUMBER ONE! And Don’t You Forget It, TantorThe US obviously is doing something wrong to be a lowly #3 or #4 on the list of most hated nations. I despair at the state of the world! Dear Culture for All readers, HELP! What can the US do to regain its rightful spot on the #2 perch of most hated nations?
What can anyone say...
Hitler and Stalin to perform at Nobel Peace Prize Awards
- He supported the fatwa on Salman Rushdie (saying "If Rushdie turned up at my doorstep looking for help,] I might ring somebody who might do more damage to him than he would like. I'd try to phone the Ayatollah Khomeini and tell him exactly where this man is.")
- Stevens/Islam gave money to Hamas
- Stevens/Islam is banned from Israel for supporting Islamic Fundamentalism
- Stevens/Islam stated Judaism is a 'so-called' religion at a Hamas fundraising event
Moroccan wins Holocaust cartoon contest
Abdollah Derkaoui received US$12,000 for his work depicting an Israeli crane piling large cement blocks on Israel's security wall and gradually obscuring Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem. A picture of Nazi Germany's Auschwitz concentration camp appears on the wall.Here is one of the tamer entries that were submitted:
There has not been mass rioting or pillaging in response to these cartoons. In fact, the response has been to laugh it off and create an Israeli antisemitic cartoon contest! (see: Boomka)
Let's compare the responses to the two cartoons: Muslims riot, pillage, and murder when anyone dare mock Mohammed or question his piety. (something which, incidentally is a real question worth exploring) Jews laugh off the Holocaust cartoon contest and in fact ONE UP the Iranians with a funnier contest of their own!
A people who are strong enough to withstand mockery without resorting to murder (and in fact laugh it off) is a proud and fine one. This is one of millions of reasons why I am so proud to be Jewish.
Wednesday, November 1, 2006
The Druze in the IDF
1) The disagreement between opponents and supporters of compulsory military service will continue to occasionally arise. We must honor the freedom of speech and thought of those who hold opinions we oppose. However, in order to conclude the disagreement, we do not need conferences in foreign capitals. We should hold a referendum among the Druze population in Israel. If the number of opponents of compulsory service is greater that the number of supporters, then we need to begin to think about its cancellation. And if the opposite is true, we need to end the disagreement and the minority should accept the will of the majority. This is the way that a democratic, pluralistic, and liberal society should act. 2) The Druze in the state lack resources. They do not have capital or media. Their percentage in the overall population is small and thus their electoral influence is practically not felt. In addition, the one or two Druze Knesset members are not necessarily Druze representatives but rather representatives of a certain political party. Often they are not devoted to Druze concerns but rather to their own, and the Druze are left without representation. Therefore, the government of Israel as well as the relevant institutions should initiate projects among the Druze for the advancement of academic education, society, infrastructure, industry, and the like, within the framework of affirmative action, for a period of ten years. Such a policy is necessary in order to develop the Druze villages and the young Druze leadership who will bear the burden of the Druze community and the nation. Of course this would include employment of Druze in key positions throughout public service, since the Druze have expertise not only in matters of security and the army. On the other hand, Jewish organizations, especially in the United States and in the Western world, should adopt the Druze community in Israel. The diaspora Jewish agenda should include all Israeli citizens in their annual agenda, and especially those who give their blood for their state and who contribute to the stability of relations between the Arab minority and the Jewish majority in Israel. In this way, the obligation is not just on the government of Israel but also on world Jewry. The government of Israel and diaspora Jewry are requested to reward the Druze for their contribution and to initiate an improvement in their situation and standing. Whoever serves in the security services and fulfills his military obligations should receive full rights and rewards, especially if he is numbered among the minorities within the state.I agree with this wholeheartedly. I support the Druze and see them as a discriminated against minority who do unfortunately face de facto (not de jure) discrimination in Israel. (that said, life in Israel is a billion times better for them than in Lebanon or Syria) More should be done to reach out to the Druze community. I hope this is done in the future.
The Muslims and the Jews
The covenant with Abraham and his descendants is central to Judaism/Christianity and Islam. The following passages from the Bible challenge the claim that God gave Israel the land (If the child is an infant, Islam is correct): Genisis 16:16 "And Hagar bore Abram a son; and Abram called the name of his son, whom Hagar bore, Ish'mael. Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore Ish'mael to Abram." Genesis 21:5 "Abraham was a hundred years old when his son Isaac was born to him." [ This guy then went on to find out Ishmael's age. -ed] 100 years old – 86 years old = 14 Add 3 years for Issac's weaning. That would make Ishmael 17 years old in Genesis 21:14-21 [ Read the reference here. -ed] But it is a description of an infant: Does Genesis 21:14 - 21 refer to a 17 year old child, or an infant? If it is in reference to a 17 year old child being carried on the shoulder of his mother, being physically placed in the bush, crying like a baby, mother having to give him water to drink, than the Islamic viewpoint is null and void. Why is there no verbal communications between mother and (17 year old) child? Genesis 21:14 - 21 "So Abraham rose early in the morning, and took bread and a skin of water, and gave it to Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, along with the (17 year old) child, and sent her away. And she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beer-Sheba. When the water in the skin was gone, she cast the (17 year old) child under one of the bushes. Then she went, and sat down over against him a good way off, about the distance of a bowshot; for she said, "Let me not look upon the death of the (17 year old) child." And as she sat over against him, the (17 year old) child lifted up his voice and wept. And God heard the voice of the (17 year old) lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven, and said to her, "What troubles you, Hagar? Fear not; for God has heard the voice of the (17 year old) lad where he is. Arise, lift up the (17 year old) lad, and hold him fast with your hand; for I will make him a great nation." Then God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water; and she went, and filled the skin with water, and gave the (17 year old) lad a drink. And God was with the (17 year old) lad, and he grew up; he lived in the wilderness, and became an expert with the bow. He lived in the wilderness of Paran; and his mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt. The age of Ishmael at this stage is crucial to the Abrahamic faiths. If he is 17 then the Judeo/Christian point of view about the Abrahamic covenant is correct. This has devastating theological consequences of unimaginable proportions. As the description of Ishmael in Genesis 21:14-21 is that of an infant it can be assumed that someone has moved this passage from an earlier part of the scripture and have got their knickers in a twist. At Genesis 22 Abraham had only 2 sons. The Quran mentions that it was Ishmael that was sacrificed hence the reference in genesis 22:2 your only son can only mean someone has substituted Ishmael names for Isaac!! [ My translation of Genesis 22:2 is: "And He said: 'Take now thy son, thine only son, whom thou lovest, even Isaac, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt-offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.'" A Christian site also translates Genesis 22:2 as: "And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of." -ed] Please can you rationally explain this anomaly? I have asked many persons including my nephews and nieces - unbiased minds with no religious backgrounds but with reasonable command of the English language about this passage and they all agree that the child in the passage is an infant.
I am not well enough versed on this issue, so I have asked Sha'i ben-Tekoa if he could help answer the question. This is his response:
The history of Christianity and Islam is a history of people reading the Torah in translations, taking things out of context, and then using their faulty, out-of-context translations to bash the Torah. Back up to verses 21:9-12. Read them and then tell me that that description of Ishmael is of an infant. The Hebrew word being used in the passages you cite does NOT refer to an infant. It can be translated as "boy." Likewise, in 21:12, G-d refers to Ishmael as a na'ar, which is commonly translated "youth." It is the word later used to describe Yitzhak during the Binding. And the Sages tell us that at that time, Yitzhak the na'ar was 37 years old! And as for the Hebrew particle eth in verse 21:14 (which is untranslatable most of the time when acting as a grammatical signpost pointing to the direct object of the verb) can also mean, as it does here, "with" as in "go along with." It does NOT mean Abraham placed both the waterskin and a baby on her shoulder. What? She had such huge shoulders? He means he placed the waterskin on her shoulder, "and with the boy" was sent away. Indeed: At the time of the expulsion of Hagar and Ishmael, he is either 16 or 17 (depending on the age of Yitzhak at the time of this weaning celebration. Some Sages say it was common to wean a child at age 2, others at age 3.) And as for 22:2, the expression "your only son" (which is repeated a second time in this story of the Binding of Isaac, 22:12) confirms the sense of 21:11-12, viz: Sarah sees at the weaning party the teenage son of her serving girl - who before he is even born (16:12) is destined to be a "wild ass on a man" - mocking his 2 (or 3)-year-old half-brother. And Sarah, in her prophetic insight, sees the possibility that this wild teenager - whom she has watched grow up - would not hestitate to harm, even kill her son at some point in order to inherit the legacy of Abraham. So she says to her husband, "Drive out this slavewoman with her son.." etc. Abraham is stressed (21:11) by this. He loves his son, his first-born, and does not want to do this. But G-d says to him, more or less, "Listen to your wife. In these matters she knows better than you." Indeed, throughout the Torah, there is simultaneously an acknowledgement of the special relationship between a father and his first-born son (there is even a special name for the first-born, bechor) who gets twice the material legacy of other sons, but also a repeating pattern of the second son becoming the spiritual heir. So it was with Shem, not Japhet, who inherited the spirit of Noah; and so it was with Jacob over Esau, when Rivka, like Sarah before her, makes sure the right, that is the second son gets the important blessing from blind Yitzhak. And see how Jacob in his own blind old age, on his death bed in Egypt (Gen: 48:10-20), overrides the wishes of his beloved son Joseph who wants his first-born son Menashe to receive the great blessing. At that point, Jacob switches the boys' positions and chooses Efraim. Steve, with your questions, you are at ground zero in the relationship between Israelites and Ishmaelites, Arabs and Jews to this very day. The Arabs have never reconciled themselves to the Torah's true version of Ishmael being rejected by his father and losing his birthright. The very word Islam means "submisssion" and points to the Muslim core belief that Ibrahim "submitted" to Allah's command that he bind his son - Ishmael - for a sacrifice in Mecca. Islam, as a name points to this crucial moment in world history when Avraham bound his son and lies about it. And for 14 centuries now, whenever Muslims are asked to explain the discrepancy between the Torah and the Qu'ranic versions of this epsiode, they answer that the Jews are the liars; that Moses brought down from Mt. Sinai the correct version, found in the Qu'ran, which the perfidious Jews later re-wrote. In a word, they accuse the Jews of their own crime. What Islam did was to steal the Torah narrative and re-write it, changing the dramatis pesonae and the locale of this pivotal episode. Judaism teaches that the Binding of Isaac took place on the site of the future Temple in Jerusalem. Muslims say no, the binding of Ishmael took place at the Kaaba in Mecca. They also say Hagar was not the serving girl of Sarah but a co-equal wife. Indeed, the Qu'ran contains dozens of Jewish characters from the Bible whose stories are plagiarized and re-written. Likewise, the Arabs in our age have stolen the story of Zionism and re-written history. Major components of Judaism and Zionism have simply been pilfered to create the "Palestinian Narrative" which turned the great saga of Jewish revival from the ashes into an ugly tale of racist imperialism. The Arabs stole the idea of Jewish victimhood at the hands of racist bigots: in the Palestinian Narrative, it is the putatively Paleolithic Palestinians who are the victims of racist, Zionist, bigoted Jews. They stole the concept of our exile, of the Jews being driven from our ancient homeland into Diaspora. They speak of the Palestinian Diaspora. They stole the chapter of our suffering in concentration camps and have kept the so-called "refugee camps" alive to this very day to prove that they too have suffered in camps - with Nazi-like, racist Zionist now in the role of villains. The idea that the Palestinians are an ancient nation and Palestine their ancient homeland is nothing but Zionism purloined - as surely as Islam itself is Judaism purloined in a way even worse than what Christianity did to Judaism. Yours, Sha'i ben-TekoaNow: Discuss! :) Update: I have possibly found the identy of our spammer as there is a public user profile using the same name elsewhere on the net. See screenshot.